Swing and a Kiss

Story Sent in by Rachelle:

Luis didn't seem interested in me at all during our date. I tried to make conversation with him, but he was more interested in his phone, his food, and himself.

Once we were done eating and stepped outside, he asked me if he could take a selfie of the two of us. "I wanna show my friends I'm on a date with a hot chick."

I'm no hot chick, but I figured that since I likely wouldn't be seeing him again, I'd indulge him and so he snapped the photo.

Then he asked, "Can we take another one? This time I'll kiss you in it."

I stepped away with a laugh. "No way."

"Why not? I want my friends to see I can get poon. C'mon."

He held up his camera again and put his arm around me. I pulled away, a little freaked out. I said, "Not here. There's a parking lot behind the restaurant. We can do it there."

He nodded. "All right. Let's go."

I said, "I'm going to the bathroom, first."

"No, you're not."

I said, "Yes, I am. I have to go and we're right here. I'll be right out back. I promise."

"I'll come in with you."

I leaned in closer to him. "If you trust me, I'll give you more than just a kiss." And I kissed his cheek. Ugh.

He seemed to go for it. He said, "Hurry up," and jogged around the restaurant.

I made for my car, which was parked in front. About halfway there, I heard him yell, "Hey!" behind me. I ran and made it into my car and locked the door before he could catch me. He banged on the window and I jolted away. In my rearview, I actually saw him stamping and jumping up and down.

I avoided that part of town for a little while afterward.


  1. Question: has this tactic ever worked in the history of dating?

  2. ^ Running away from insane creepy dudes? Seems pretty successful.

    I really love how people are so wrapped up in their social media appearance that a picture where you were "going to get some ....poon" is way more important than actually making an effort on a date which could lead to actual sex. On a bed of trash. With your twin watching. Twice.

  3. Lol, I see what you did there, Architect. xD

  4. Seems like the most reasonable way for you to handle that situation, sure.

  5. His reaction when you said you had to go inside to go to the bathroom first... What a freak.

  6. @The Architect: I know, right? Luis is like the Nice Guy stereotype taken to its logical conclusion: a guy who is so wrapped up in his need for his bros to think he can get laid that his behavior prevents it from ever actually happening. He's probably on Some MRA forum right now complaining that he can't catch a break because women only date jerks.

  7. You know, it's funny but I once met a waitress who acted like she was really into me in front of my coworkers and gave me her number despite having a boyfriend... but then never called me back. It sounds crazy, but I strongly suspect she did it in order to make me look good in front of the CEO... not because she was interested but just because she thought I was nice and wanted to make me look like a really suave and cool cat. What I'm trying to say is that social status (and how attractive people may easily confer it) can definitely be a complicated and unusual thing sometimes.

  8. I'm honestly disappointing that she felt the need to go through an entire charade instead of just...you know...saying, "I'm not comfortable with that" and ending the date (if he doesn't get why, then his loss). And don't get me wrong, this doesn't excuse his behavior. I just think that this response felt needlessly avoidant. I.e. why promise anything or say anything that got his hopes up. She has a perfectly valid reason to leave

  9. @Architect: LOL, needs moar trilby!

  10. @number string: I'm guessing you're a guy. I'm not saying that to be a smart ass, it's just that when a guy is acting as creepy as Luis, many women will try to finesse their way out of the situation and escape. It's not unusual for situations like that to escalate to threats or even violence when creepy guys like Luis are flat out told "no".

  11. Duh, that's because when girls say, "no" they always mean, "yes". Are you really that dumb? Where have you been the last 50 years? Sheesh

  12. First off, totally agree with Ghost of Gene Rayburn, here. Women are often taught to let men down gently rather than give a blunt "no", no matter how creepy and invasive the guy is being, partly because of the fear already mentioned, but also because of the social expectation that women should be nice and agreeable all the time. It sucks.

    "I want my friends to see I can get poon." Gross, dude. Just...gross. Presumptuous much?

    I also suspect there were no friends to send pictures to, and this was just a ruse to try to push the OP into going further than she wanted.


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