tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3186499665856075184.post3021796606151112987..comments2023-10-10T12:33:43.016-04:00Comments on A Bad Case of the Dates: I'm Kind of a Package DealJMGhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18362998962851574254noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3186499665856075184.post-86616126374115804632013-08-25T13:45:19.900-04:002013-08-25T13:45:19.900-04:00Weird...My name is Alana almost thought this was a...Weird...My name is Alana almost thought this was about me...but I don't have any kids :3Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3186499665856075184.post-59611637470281071542013-08-25T13:44:21.455-04:002013-08-25T13:44:21.455-04:00Weird...My name is Alana almost thought this was a...Weird...My name is Alana almost thought this was about me...but I don't have any kids :3Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3186499665856075184.post-7532593794417887422012-12-27T20:41:29.084-05:002012-12-27T20:41:29.084-05:00I agree that it's bad parenting to bring your ...I agree that it's bad parenting to bring your child on a first date, so I have no sympathy for the woman at all. tanette13https://www.blogger.com/profile/10181322770388500436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3186499665856075184.post-27559496201054027452012-10-25T16:45:30.963-04:002012-10-25T16:45:30.963-04:00his mother deserves it, not being able to bring up...his mother deserves it, not being able to bring up a child turning him into a screaming monster Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03738406563691145084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3186499665856075184.post-27541404682032846562011-12-21T11:15:20.768-05:002011-12-21T11:15:20.768-05:00Aw man, I was excited when I saw there was 6 new c...Aw man, I was excited when I saw there was 6 new comments on here. Sadly, five of them were from some retard, and the other was from some douche.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3186499665856075184.post-11433964999097839992011-12-20T14:35:28.672-05:002011-12-20T14:35:28.672-05:00Why is this so complicated? No kids on dates, unle...Why is this so complicated? No kids on dates, unless it's a fucking playdate. The end.Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03450478071501147848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3186499665856075184.post-2249284794105672952011-12-20T14:35:26.457-05:002011-12-20T14:35:26.457-05:00Why is this so complicated? No kids on dates, unle...Why is this so complicated? No kids on dates, unless it's a fucking playdate. The end.Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03450478071501147848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3186499665856075184.post-14352635738325949442011-12-20T14:34:28.674-05:002011-12-20T14:34:28.674-05:00Why is this so complicated? No kids on dates, unle...Why is this so complicated? No kids on dates, unless it's a fucking playdate. The end.Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03450478071501147848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3186499665856075184.post-29428007320299490902011-12-20T14:34:26.464-05:002011-12-20T14:34:26.464-05:00Why is this so complicated? No kids on dates, unle...Why is this so complicated? No kids on dates, unless it's a fucking playdate. The end.Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03450478071501147848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3186499665856075184.post-46626278202331618192011-12-20T14:33:28.818-05:002011-12-20T14:33:28.818-05:00Why is this so complicated? No kids on dates, unle...Why is this so complicated? No kids on dates, unless it's a fucking playdate. The end.Jennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03450478071501147848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3186499665856075184.post-7022729169279809972011-12-19T23:19:43.244-05:002011-12-19T23:19:43.244-05:00It's sad that the discussion devolved into a &...It's sad that the discussion devolved into a "should we let kids totally run wild?" debate.<br /><br />The core issue is very simple: bringing any third party on a date is a grotesquely rude and inappropriate thing to do, and doubly so if done as a "surprise". This applies whether said third party is 3 or 93, as wild as a bull moose or as mannered as a Tibetan monk.Andrew Lenahanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14801508126208476261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3186499665856075184.post-81624628644413604412011-12-19T16:08:51.547-05:002011-12-19T16:08:51.547-05:00Team wolfie.Team wolfie.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3186499665856075184.post-26453023778680507552011-12-19T07:27:51.487-05:002011-12-19T07:27:51.487-05:00I think that in this case, you had to have been th...I think that in this case, you had to have been there. There is so much about the way people act in person that just cannot be expressed in words from memory.<br /><br />That being said, the OP does make himself sound like a douche and the lady should def have mentioned the kid. My gf had a 2 year old when I met her and she was honest about it. We are still together 3 years later.<br /><br />Diff strokes fo' diff folksBen Doverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04496031422863947515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3186499665856075184.post-71622177664790104702011-12-18T18:14:06.248-05:002011-12-18T18:14:06.248-05:00Those who don't discipline and teach correct b...Those who don't discipline and teach correct behaviour to their kids, end up with brats.<br /><br />Those who think theres 'no excuse for hitting a child' are really living on another planet. Of course, theres a difference between a disciplinary smack and abuse, but there are definitely occasions in most childrens lives where a smack is the best form of correction.Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14455136756424949727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3186499665856075184.post-58127454096417535832011-12-18T12:03:48.397-05:002011-12-18T12:03:48.397-05:00After my divorce I started dating and I must say I...After my divorce I started dating and I must say I never brought my children on the first date. I can'y imagine when that would be a good idea at all. I always let whomever I was going on the date with upfront that I had two children. I respect the fact that not everyone likes/wants kids, therefore I would not want to waste their time or mine.Apryl Mitchellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12632211182164301063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3186499665856075184.post-48353943093756854182011-12-18T06:50:20.324-05:002011-12-18T06:50:20.324-05:00I really have nothing to say, I had several opinio...I really have nothing to say, I had several opinions, views and comments and ALL of them seem to have been voiced already.<br /><br />Wolfdreams, always a pleasure reading your comments and DrMcCoy, lighten up. This is a happy place where we get critique (and very often ridicule and judge) people on bad dates (and someone named Kate Weber), not each other.Sawyer86https://www.blogger.com/profile/03589709327830789237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3186499665856075184.post-53756644206872123032011-12-18T05:54:08.360-05:002011-12-18T05:54:08.360-05:00Completely on the side of Lime and Wolf here, ther...Completely on the side of Lime and Wolf here, there was no attempt at any kind of behaviour management (I wont call it discipline or some people may think I mean hitting).<br />My main problem is her not being up front about having a child at all, that kind of thing is (whether people like it or not) a dealbreaker for some.Ashleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13733974260099709340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3186499665856075184.post-21338616980025107122011-12-18T02:09:25.952-05:002011-12-18T02:09:25.952-05:00Ahhh wolfdreams, what with your caninicity ours is...Ahhh wolfdreams, what with your caninicity ours is a love forbidden by both church and state. Fortunately our tragic romance leads naturally into a movie of the week with nice fat royalty cheques which should help to soften the tragedy a bit.<br /><br />I'd respond to McCoy as well but I know I'll just get annoyed and the last time I facepalmed myself that hard I knocked myself unconscious for a week.Mellorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13648897254655558957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3186499665856075184.post-59225466342846841642011-12-18T00:53:21.916-05:002011-12-18T00:53:21.916-05:00@Dr McCoy: Sorry, I didn't read your blog. I&...@Dr McCoy: Sorry, I didn't read your blog. I'm sure it's very inspiring, but I'm sort of a busy person. And who says I'm anonymous? I'm already told people MULTIPLE times in previous threads that I'm a dog who uses the computer when his owner is out. Why is that so hard to understand? As for using an esily searchable real-life identity to post here, I don't think that exactly makes a strong argument for your intelligence. ABCotD posters can be clever, hilarious, and even adorable, but they can also be fucking nuts. (No offense.)<br /><br />And what do you mean, "the tone argument?" In the middle of a perfectly civil and polite debate, YOU suddenly used the word "idiocy" to describe views that differed from yours, and went on to tell me to "get a clue." That's not "tone"; just you being a rude jackass. Nevertheless, even though you had time to be rude, you clearly didn't have time to make any sort of case for WHY you feel humans are not fundamentally animals. I see that this view bothers you, I totally get that, but if you're unable to verbalize any sort of rational explanation beyond "I don't like that philosophy and it bothers me" then you need to take some time to re-examine your views because they're clearly flawed.<br /><br />Also, you're using the classic M.O. of people who lack a strong case, which is to distort what the other person said to make it sound more extreme than it is. Nobody said anything about spanking or physical discipline except you, yet you're trying to put words in my mouth and make it seem like I'm advocating corporal punishment. In fact, I even made the distinction earlier that the OP did NOT smack the child or do anything physical. If twisting my words is for you a natural debate tactic, you might want to spend less time on your blog and more time in real-life social scenarios, because I have NEVER seen this crap fly in the business world (at least, not successfully).<br /><br />@Mellor - Sorry, I didn't mean to ignore you, I just wanted to address the irrational stuff coming off of Dr McCoy's keyboard, because it annoyed me. I would gladly have your babies, Mellor... if only I were human and not simply a dog using the computer when nobody's watching. So the best we can hope for is a tragic romance, or possibly a Bad Date. ;-)wolfdreams01https://www.blogger.com/profile/17132744227210305134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3186499665856075184.post-6082030743640168922011-12-18T00:48:59.896-05:002011-12-18T00:48:59.896-05:00Did anyone say we wanted her to beat/spank the chi...Did anyone say we wanted her to beat/spank the child? Did wolfdreams say that? Because if he did, I sincerely can't find it. <br /><br />I'm talking about the fact that in the story, we don't see her say/do didly squat to her son at all to try to stem the behavior. Not one glance to the side to show she even noticed he was yelling in the first place, not one "sush," picking him up, handing him something to distract him, etc.<br /><br />And my interpretation of the scene and her parenting skills could be completely wrong. Maybe she was trying to ignore it on purpose to get him to stop on his own, maybe she did do something off camera we're not privy to, maybe she doesn't see it as a problem as we do. Maybe she's the best mother ever, though I would argue that the very fact John-John there says otherwise. <br /><br />Of course he was just acting like a 3-year old, I blame him for nothing. But 3-year olds understand words, and how are they to learn if you don't start to teach them? Kids are amazing and can start to learn all kinds of stuff at a very early age if you bother to try. If there had been one small line where she'd said "inside voice" or tried anything, then I wouldn't have as high a negative opinion of her as I do now. <br /><br />I am not anti-child, I am anti-stupid parents. Animals teach their children how to behave too, it they didn't they would die. Don't be an advocate for John-John's death, that's just rude.Lime Coconuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13846322419917685582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3186499665856075184.post-56424075354109025282011-12-18T00:38:59.109-05:002011-12-18T00:38:59.109-05:00^And now I'm late to the party. Oh well. Oh, a...^And now I'm late to the party. Oh well. Oh, and totally on board with there being no excuse for hitting a child, and I really hope no one was actually talking about that.Ankh Ascendanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00892672870337431850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3186499665856075184.post-12833300939232743312011-12-18T00:32:00.934-05:002011-12-18T00:32:00.934-05:00*pulls up a chair to watch the comments*
Persona...*pulls up a chair to watch the comments* <br /><br />Personal comments and snark aside, a person may not like to hear it called 'conditioning' or 'training', but that is what we do to each other. When a child is punished by his parents or shunned by his peers, he learns not to do the thing that got him punished, or that the behavior that led to his shunning was unacceptable. It's not pleasant, but it's just what humans do. If he's not punished, he's not going to know what he's doing is wrong, and once he gets old enough to know on his own he very well may not care, because he hasn't had any reason to care about consequences before.<br /><br />I might have sounded like a jerk earlier, but I personally don't mind that a three year old acts like a three year old. His responsibility for his own actions is limited. I do care that his mother evidently doesn't see anything wrong with his behavior, or her own. Rudeness may or may not teach her that it's unacceptable, but it's a lot more likely to than making an excuse or even being polite but truthful. And on a more personal-toward-the-story note, I just don't see a whole lot of reason to be gentle with her feelings when she is so obviously, clearly, deeply in the wrong, which I think everyone so far has agreed upon.Ankh Ascendanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00892672870337431850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3186499665856075184.post-78165876006296097802011-12-18T00:03:29.776-05:002011-12-18T00:03:29.776-05:00You're right, Jonathan, this is far beneath me...You're right, Jonathan, this is far beneath me. I blame my extra crankyness on my cold and on sleep deprivation.<br /><br />What got my goat in wolfdreams01's original comment is twofold:<br />1. It seems to argue for "disciplining"/spanking children that behave even slightly different from a fairy-tale "perfect child" model, coupled with dehuminizing language and a gross oversimplification of how society works. I have a zero tolerance for beating children; in my eyes, it is abuse and a sign that you fail as a parent.<br />2. It shows notions of a general anti-children stance I've seen in a lot of other people (who then argue for a ban of children in restaurants, airplanes or public space in general). I find that highly irritating.DrMcCoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06163849821028780265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3186499665856075184.post-14201654908601988212011-12-17T23:47:35.630-05:002011-12-17T23:47:35.630-05:00There's nothing like letting your attempt at d...There's nothing like letting your attempt at discourse suddenly and irrationally devolve into an ad hominem attack...<br /><br />"well you see the theory of evolution states that it is survival of...you're a poopoo head!"Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04624197135460380925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3186499665856075184.post-39585719171353790442011-12-17T23:17:43.846-05:002011-12-17T23:17:43.846-05:00wolfdreams01: Oh, the tone argument, how novel.
A...wolfdreams01: Oh, the tone argument, how novel.<br /><br />And backing up claims? Like your "logical backing up" of some uncited "Most rational psychological theory recognizes that humans ARE animals" (which has nothing to do with what I'm actually arguing)?<br /><br />As for my life (insert an eye roll for that pathetic arm-chair psychology here) I'm not the one here who's completely anonymous, that would be you. My website is linked on my profile page, my real name is easily findable, and I'm quite happy with what I have achived in my various open source projects. Hell, the actual problem I'm having is that I'm doing /too much/ with my life, and often can't focus on one thing to bring it to completion. But that's neither here nor there.DrMcCoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06163849821028780265noreply@blogger.com